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Knave vs Whitehack

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KnaveWhitehack
GenreFantasyFantasy
TagsClassless, Rules-Light, Dungeon Crawl, Hackable, Ascending AC, Vancian Casting, Random TablesRules-Light, Narrative, Hackable, Mana Points, Freeform Magic
Core MechanicRoll d20 + ability score (1–10) vs. 11 + difficulty modifier. No classes: your abilities come from what you carry. Item slot inventory means every piece of gear is a meaningful choice. Spellbooks occupy an item slot and can be cast once per day (INT times per day total). 100 random careers provide starting equipment and flavor. Wounds reduce ability scores directly.Roll d20 under your attribute to succeed; the face value of a success indicates quality. Positive double rolls (roll 2d20, pick best) and negative double rolls (pick worst) replace flat modifiers. Characters are defined by Groups (species, vocations, and affiliations) which grant advantage on relevant tasks. The Wise class casts miracles by spending HP, with effects triangulated by their groups and wordings.
Diced20d20 + 3d6
ComplexityVery LowLow
AvailabilityPaidPaid
Runnability5 of 5 book tools5 of 5 book tools
LicenseProprietaryProprietary
Third-Party PublishingNot yet researchedNot yet researched
PublisherQuesting Beast LLCChristian Mehrstam
Year20242023
LanguagesEnglishEnglish
Best ForGroups who want a classless, inventory-driven OSR game where characters are defined entirely by their equipment: with brilliant random tables and a full worldbuilding toolkit.Experienced players who want a concise, elegant OSR system that rewards creative play: where freeform character groups replace rigid skill lists and miracles are flexible but costly.
HighlightsClassless: gear defines the character, item slot inventory makes every choice meaningful, extensive random tables for worldbuilding, CC BY license allows free modification, fits in a small bookConcise yet deep (~136 pages), Groups system replaces both skills and feats, compatible with old-school modules from 1974 onward, Auction mechanic adds tension to extended contests, miracles system rewards creative description, four editions of refinement
ConsiderationsNo character classes may feel directionless for some players, very swingy d20 rolls with low ability scores, minimal rules means heavy GM improvisation, combat is basic by designDense writing requires careful reading: not a quick-start game, assumes familiarity with old-school play, no bestiary or setting included, rare classes may feel underdeveloped