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Castles & Crusades vs Tales of the Valiant

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Castles & CrusadesTales of the Valiant
GenreFantasyFantasy
TagsHeroic, Dungeon Crawl, Character Building, High-Fantasy, Theater of the Mind, Vancian CastingHeroic, Character Building, High-Fantasy, Tactical
Core MechanicSIEGE Engine: roll d20 + modifier + level vs. Challenge Class (12 for primary attributes, 18 for secondary). Primary/secondary attribute distinction replaces complex skill lists with a single unified check system.Roll d20 + modifier against a target number or opposed check. Uses the core 5e framework: six ability scores, proficiency bonus, advantage/disadvantage. Adds a Talent system for additional character customization, reorganizes spells into numbered Circles, and introduces new Heritages and Lineages for character creation.
Diced20d20
ComplexityLowMedium
AvailabilityFree core rulesFree core rules
Runnability4 of 5 book toolsBook tools not listed
LicenseOGL 1.0aCreative Commons CC BY 4.0 (Black Flag Reference Document)
Third-Party PublishingNot yet researchedNot yet researched
PublisherTroll Lord GamesKobold Press
Year20042024
LanguagesEnglishEnglish
Best ForGroups wanting the classic AD&D feel with streamlined, unified mechanics: old-school spirit with modern ease of play.Groups who want to continue playing 5e-style fantasy with backwards-compatible adventures but prefer an independent publisher with new heritages, talents, and spell circle organization.
HighlightsSIEGE Engine unifies all attribute checks, easy to convert AD&D/d20 content, 13 classes with classic archetypes, fast character creation, large back-catalog of adventuresFully backwards-compatible with 5e adventures and supplements, Talent system adds character customization beyond subclass choice, spell Circles streamline spell level organization, backed by Kobold Press's extensive monster and adventure catalog
ConsiderationsPrimary/secondary attribute split can feel arbitrary, limited non-fantasy supportVery similar to 5e: groups satisfied with existing 5e rules may not find enough differentiation, still building its own identity separate from D&D, Monster Vault sold separately